The Liminalist # 104: A Liminal Life (with Susan Frey)

Part one of a conversation with Susan Frey, PhD, on meeting Jim Kunstler, Susan’s five careers, the backdoor to the healthcare system, sick buildings, designing healthy schools from the inside out, Common Core and education as programming, neurotic patterns, the problem with agendas, ethic-free agendas, community-building, theater of absurd realism, human-animal chimeras, Trump the pig-human, the coming of the bots, beyond conspiracy theory, Ray Kurtzweil’s age of spiritual machines, Kubrickon & Faceborg, linear vs. circular time, McKenna’s timeline zero, the concept of progress, the structure of language, virtual schools, VR education, handing the control over to kids, Einstein’s brain, following a guru, the body-mind thing, PK Dick’s Martian Time-Slip, autism & extra-consensual perception, an indeterminate number of senses, the goal of total disembodiment, the reification of time, Steiner, visiting Esalen.

Songs:  “The Kommema and his Religion” by SunWalker; “International Trust,” by The Clerks; “Don’t Dust Up Our Love (Mash-up)” (from original songs by  Richard Thompson and Parquet Courts).

5 thoughts on “The Liminalist # 104: A Liminal Life (with Susan Frey)”

  1. Happy to finally hear Susan Frey’s ideas and voice. Knew her from her comments “in here”. I thought that was interesting that she wrote so many plays, and it’s funny about “the pig” creature. But, also freaky that it’s all coming true…

    Jasun, do you sell your books direct, and can I snail-mail you payment direct -not by PP? (Or, if you buy from Amazon, then I could send you an Amazon gift card.) If so, please email me the info. Take care…

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  2. The part where you mention spiritual machines & time eerily reminds me of how Brainiac freezes cities into a permanent, unchanging, state then shrinks them down before destroying each one to restore a planet he ruled in Superman.

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  3. The human/pig chimera talk reminded me of something that I read about a year ago; a theory that the origin of humans is as a hybrid of apes and—you guessed it—pigs!

    Sounds absurd, but you can read the full theory for yourself and see that it does make some interesting & thought provoking points:
    Human Origins; the Hybrid Hypothesis by Eugene M. McCarthy PHD Genetics
    http://www.macroevolution.net/human-origins.html

    I found that link at Giza Death Star, by the way:
    https://gizadeathstar.com/2015/12/things-that-make-you-go-hmmm-geneticist-mccarthy-are-humans-hybrids/

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  4. Jasun,

    In reference to listener’s ( brb97133) comment; The existentialist S. Kiekegaard quoted as follows…
    ” The most painful state of being is remembering the future.” The pig/chimera apparently in our past is now in our future…

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  5. The Russian philosopher Alexsandr Dugin discusses this freezing of time , this immanentisation of the eschaton . I just had a greeny communitarian berate me for not actively worshipping at the temple of the connectededness community , and when i told him i thought he was part of a deeply polarised and binary relativist construct comprised of opposing ideologies perpetrated by the dystopian social engineering overseers of the omniscient dystopian transnational corporate state , he just looked at me blankly and walked away ,

    Something i said ??

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