The Liminalist # 59.5: Removing the Veils (with Znore)

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Part two of a probing exploration with Znore, on what shackles perception, tactility & meaning, the two modes of the imagination, imposing the will on the universe, synesthetic common sense & sexuality, the abuse of erotic energy, loss of tactility, the magical manipulation of society, literature & pedophilia, the pendulum of social engineering, the internal guardian, Yeats’ Vision, phases of the psyche, why sex leads to violence, what is sex?, thrift store work, losing the self in the everyday, incarnating perception, polymorphous perversity, the visual nature of literature, deepening sensation, the body is a sensation, Vipassana meditation, creating better psychopaths, locating trauma in the body, the signal of the transmission, a primal meeting of minds, removing the veils, McLuhan’s environmental teaching machine, the psyche externalized, all technology is the UFO, the image of the mother’s body, space conquest as sublimated psychological drive, the Monolith and the Roman mother goddess, the Star Child and the missing celestial breast, formula babies, Pluto-Uranus conjunction, stunting the growth of potential world-changers, Pynchon’s Crying of Lot 49, beyond the bounds of spacetime, correlation between technological progress & spiritual realization, Jodorowsky’s psycho-magic, the element of crisis, surrender rituals, Chöd & the benefits of offering oneself up to soul-eating demons, the top of the Illuminati pyramid, cancelling the debt to the spirits, forgiveness, crucifixion as incarnation.

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Songs: “El Mariachi” & “Monkey Said,” by The Freak Fandango Orchestra; “Poor Moon” & “Repro” by Big Blood.

12 thoughts on “The Liminalist # 59.5: Removing the Veils (with Znore)”

  1. me three. beautiful, and well, inspiring really. on multiple levels. it conjured up memories of my childhood, am the older sibling of a sister blind from infancy. we were encouraged to see the world with her eyes, or if you prefer, her ears, hands and heart. whenever the power went out and we were impatient to see or do anything that required technology our dad reminded us to think of this as her world. to this day, when the lights flicker or dim or leave me in the shadows i remember. she no longer hears or has the ability to speak , but she would have enjoyed your conversation a great deal.
    ahhh, big blood, nothing else to say but thanks, big time.

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    • Can a person blind from infancy hallucinate?

      If so, what do they “see?”

      What happens if a blind person take LSD?

      Can/do they “see” anything?

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  2. i cant speak for everyone who is blind from infancy, as i dont know many congenitally blind people, and it never came up in a conversation. my sister dreamt vividly, as in with all her senses. dreams were held in high esteem over porridge, we used to tease her that she was copying what she heard us talk about, as we were sure even as kids that she would have had auditory dreams. we were wrong.
    yes blind people hallucinate as in psychotic breaks or delusions or trauma relived. dont know about LSD, i’m not sure what part it plays in blind/deaf culture. it would seem to be a dangerous escapade without someone trustworthy and or capable close by. yes to the herb.
    the things my sister described are what lead us to believe she “saw” in altered states of consciousness, sometimes not always. we were sure of this because she had no words for what she saw until she described them to us, and we would tell her what we thought these things might be.

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  3. nan

    my sister dreamt vividly, as in with all her senses
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    So its possible she could build/construct/see images based on her senses other than eyesight?

    Our dreams (sighted people) have been “contaminated” by our eyesight; blind peoples dreams are “contaminated” by all the other senses but eyesight. So in their dreams they know they are filled with blood, and blood is wet; but they don’t know what color it is because they don’t have a concept of color?

    Or do they have a concept of color based on some other criteria?

    Can your sister do a podcast?

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  4. blind people often use the word ‘see’, i think they really mean it, at least my sister did. it is also a manner of speaking. her world was full, but it was small, she constructed images bases on her senses all the time. a more apt word might be conjured, i imagine she was free to include or discard willy nilly whatever she held dear or loathed in her dreams. like a magician,
    do you mean our eyesight informs our dreams, as in for good or worse?
    an example, when she was tiny, over porridge we came to discover she had what could only have been a flying dream, a big deal to us, she described the landscape with her body and references familiar to us, she held up her arms over her head and waved them back an forth; told us they were big etc. they were trees,
    no she couldn’t do a podcast, she cannot hear, or speak.

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