The Liminalist # 48: Cathedrals of Denial (with Ashley H)

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Intimate conversation  between Jasun and Ashley H on staying open to explorations, contextualizing Jimmy Savile, NHS-Tavistock connection, believing the evidence, being conditioned to trust in authority, corruption or just the system, going further into the darkness, the conspiracy of culture, the proof of the pudding of social engineering, the road to hell, means to an end, the abuse of psychology, distrusting Freud & Jung, constructing a cultural identity, a cocoon of unreality, toxic womb life, learned helplessness, coming out of the fog, the opposite of struggle, the Neptune-womb, a template of safety, a strong mother bond and separation, getting out of bed in the morning, a somatic experience, toxins in place of love, how identity sprouts, collective trauma realm of the world, Pluto/Neptune, abuse/dissociation, a web of pain and the power complex, the dichotomy of love and power, lack of love = will to power, abuse and neglect, addiction and powerlessness, the NA way, Sebastian Horsley & Kierkegaard, at the mercy of the mother, a mother-son pact, a legacy of anorexia, the cathedral of denial, building a fortress in the womb, playing dead, unborn people, a mother on the run, secret criminality.

Songs: “El Mariachi”  by The Freak Fandango Orchestra; “Good Ol’ Bad Times,” by Wooden Ambulance; “Lonesome Dove,” by Roger Tilly & Wooden Ambulance.

4 thoughts on “The Liminalist # 48: Cathedrals of Denial (with Ashley H)”

  1. Yeah Bravo you two , you are both lucky to have made it this far in one piece , and to be able to talk to each other like this , as Marilyn Manson said , its a long hard road out of hell , must be tough having Madam Bovary for a mum .
    Your podcasts have started me delving into the context of the neoliberal revolution of globalism , permissiveness and anything goes , and i have been looking into Leo Strauss and the neoliberals , most of whom are Jews . I have begun to contrast this against the reemerging paleoconservatives, the Odinistic Teutonic back-to-the-land wandervogel of the peak oiler movement to which you seem to have gravitated .
    Am starting to wonder wether you have blundered into the ages old spiritual war for the soul of chimp – humanity between the jewish saturnine talmudists and the christian jesuit bible bashers . Your family certainly seems to have been in the front lines , are you guys jews ??
    Strikes me that the neoliberal globalist talmudists might be trying to force humanities hand and speed up evolution by getting us to confront our deepest base desires and learn to handle them , with the inevitable collateral damage of some billions of broken eggs , whereas the other mob were keen to keep things locked in the basement and go on in very stilted fashion .
    Very binary and overly simplistic scenario i know .
    The hexagram , Saturn and Pan versus the Pentagram , the sun and Dionysus , hmmmm,

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  2. Talk by Carol Rutz, American MKULTRA child survivor. Including her drawings based on memories of being in experiments at McGil University in Montreal, 1960. Dr. Cameron was a Scots-born American who used children including orphans as guinea pigs in lethal experiments. Was he also a Fabian? He believed Nazi war criminals could be reprogrammed and rehabilitated to work for the British and American empire.

    Rutz’s drawings feature children she met who were permanent residents of a secret ‘behavioural lab’ in the basement of the Allan Memorial Institute of McGill: http://www.whale.to/b/rutz7.html

    The naked girl shown in one drawing with electrodes in her head was Isabel Flora Williams (1944-1963) — the only MKULTRA child for whom I was able to find birth and death records in the Montreal public archives.

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  3. I felt like I was eavesdropping (to use a masonic term) when listening to this one man. You certainly bare it all don’t ya.

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