The Liminalist 50.5: The Punishment of Desire (with James Quigley)

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Part two of conversation with James Quigley, on the demon series, getting the world’s attention, genital highlights of an O.T.O convention, getting rid of the Crowley tarot, the roots of occultism, archetypes and the psyche, the risks of creativity, the element of will, the link between occultism and the intelligence community, disentangling from the past, satirizing demons, the other side of demonology, learning not to trust oneself, moving through the labyrinth of projections, becoming whole, cobbling together an identity, the last seeds, un-arresting development, pornography and the occult, talking about sexuality, overcoming shame, what to do with poisons, the toxicity of secrets, speaking the unspeakable, the danger of becoming a perpetrator, lucid dreams, meeting the id, keeping the taboo charge for ourselves, activating the guardian, describing dis-ease, extreme cautionary tales, the inner Christian punishing the inner heathen, trapped in the astral, trauma ties, the taboo of the occult, what is true occult, seeking to access the totality, pornography again, the culture of taboo, the barbarian hordes, a sense of sin, the meaning of Psycho and Dressed to Kill, the sex & violence spectrum and the inner persecutor, a nightmare gauntlet, Sebastian’s horror influence, torture porn, Eli Roth, Mike Diana & blasphemous comics, the power of the director, cathartic art and SRA victims, Tarantino’s love of violence, the question of intentions, imitating culture for success, aligning with the sociopath, the nihilistic dream world, back to shaman porn, does the process end, confirming the realness of the shadow.

Songs: “El Mariachi” and “Monkey Said,” by The Freak Fandango Orchestra; “Within You or Without You,” by Hugh Cornwell

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  1. Yeh you two fearless and admirable individuals once again leave no stone unturned in your latest chat . With cultural artefacts of indeterminate origin like the Goetia demons , i sometimes fret that they are shadow archetypal forms that may have been handed down in debased form , relics of much earlier and vanished human civilisations , the Babylonian , Sumerian , Hittite , Hyksos , who knows . Their charm may lie in part by the power that has been invested in them by worshippers during times now out of mine , so stumble into a Lions Den the unwary may .
    I watched Tarantinos “Hateful Eight ” the other day and found it quite anachronistic . On one hand quite usually Oedipal and Gratuitous , on the other a quaint and faithful reporting of the existing culture in which Q finds himself , as a reporter and observer rather than a shaper of a particularly d crepit western civilisation . In some respects an intrepid expose of the rotten state of race relations in the United States , with open homage , comparison and curiosity paid to the apartheid southern hemisphere states of australia , south africa , as well as Nazi Germany . All carried out in a refreshingly non PC manner , which nonetheless manages to offend a lot of people , like all good art , though i agree there is a certain devil-may -care abrogration of responsibilty..
    I feel we must consider ” A Serbian Film ” in terms of the context of diassociation discussed here , in light of the western inspired destruction of the balkan yugoslavia and the horrors visited by western state and non state actors which must inevitably poison the well of the homeland . Orgasming inside a freshly beheaded corpse is an entirely appropriate depiction of our culture ethos and time . Grotesquery personified . Behold Thanatos , the pale horse , his riders name was death , and drone bombing hell followed with them . Ala Bowies video “Tis A Pity She Was A Whore “

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    • I am looking forward to Hateful 8, because I always enjoy QT’s set-ups, the long passages that precede the violence. Once the violence begins I lose interest. The last part of Django was appalling, aesthetically and otherwise. Yet it was a fine movie for the first two hours. I don’t think Quentin can reign in his own baser urges, which means he isn’t aware of how destructive they are: he is irresponsible towards his own transmission.

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