Thanks to Tom Mellett, I finally got my hands (so to speak) on an audio file of “Simon”‘s interview for Coast to Coast, speeded up and I’d say identifiably Levenda, though I am curious to hear what others think. Here.
(The original, unaltered audio can be listened to here.)
Also, there is another interview I found in which he admits to working for intell, sort of, here. I feel like this is one of those strange cases of, on the one hand, everybody knows, on the other, since Levenda’s denial continues with the tissue-y semblance of plausibility, nobody cares?
I asked Mark Pilkington, of Mirage Man, what he thinks of Levenda and deLonge and the old-new Disclosure Promise. He was fairly noncommittal (he said he needs more time to look into it), but gently suggested the odor of a rat. How could he not? The question (for me) is, is anyone calling Levenda out on this within the conspiracy field; and if not, why not? Peter Levenda is something of a pillar of the alternate perceptions community and within so-called conspiracy research. And what happens when a pillar is seen to be rotten?
My first ever paranoid awareness webpage 20 years ago (in 1998) had the banner: There’s a worldwide conspiracy to create the belief that there’s a worldwide conspiracy to create the belief, etc, etc. If true, this means that probably most of our own “intell” on the subject (as so-called conspiracy researchers) is sourced in ongoing info wars… Not that we don’t know this, but to actually ID one of the main players, doesn’t that make it possible to unravel the narratives that have been spun around us, just a little bit? For example, if 90-95% of Levenda’s info in Sinister Forces (e.g.) is legit (as I think it probably is), what’s the extra 5-10% and how is it reframing the good info and turning it into a useful narrative for … the-powers-that-be?
Going out on a limb (well OK, inching a bit further out on a limb I’ve been on for a while now), Levenda strikes me as an insider whose job it is to establish a false narrative around good information so we will follow that template and put all of our own information into the context of the false narrative, thereby rendering it less accurate, true, or practically useful to us. Note how Levenda debunked my suggestions of an occult element in organized child abuse, for example. That’s not part of his (i.e., the officially unofficial) narrative. (I should say the one I am suggesting Levenda is affiliated with; Alex Jones & David Icke talk about that stuff, but they don’t have the credibility that Levenda does: they are disinfo merchants for a different, much larger, corner of the market.)
Simply put, I think Levenda’s info, like Strieber’s, has an ideological thrust that trumps, and hence invalidates, the informational content. To be fair, I’d say the same, to a degree, about books I wrote (as Aeolus Kephas); but then, I was informed and inspired by other “researchers” (intell) and so I also became an unwittingly unreliable narrator. I think Levenda is witting, and that this makes a huge difference.
Oh, and while we’re turning over the Simon stones, Tom also drew my attention to a 2016 glowing Amazon review of Michael Aquino’s We Break the Sword: The Nazi Peace of 1940., written by . . . Peter Levenda. Birds of a feather…?
*** In the case of Levenda being a possible tool for the cryptocracy, we may wish to raise the question of what the elite actually believe, what they want people to think they believe, and (probably closely tied) what they want the people they rule to believe. Then there’s what they want those of us who are becoming aware of their actual nature (or think we are) to believe about what the elite believe. This latter may not be the same as what they actually believe. (People who do not believe in satan may wish us to believe they are satanists…)
In my last conversation with Levenda, I suggested that all occultist goals and practices are rooted in pathologies of one sort or another. He agreed! Yet you would never guess this from his output, which from Simon Cabana to Tom deLonge is all about promoting occultic narratives. His heroes are Lovecraft, Crowley, & Grant, so Levenda is not someone to frown on occult practices. So why did he agree with me? Was it because he was caught off guard and found himself telling the truth? Or was it the inverse, and he merely presented the veneer of agreement because he thought that was what I wanted to hear?
The spinners of fragmentary myths certainly have their own crucial fictions, and by crucial fictions I mean, partially at least, ideological narratives that provide false meanings to buffer awareness of death. The elite appear to believe that they can transcend the mass of humanity ~ and defeat death? ~ by gaining total control over it (and their own bodies?). But their main business seems to be the manufacturing, marketing, and selling of crucial fictions to others.
An obvious example of this might be how intelligence and shadow government agencies use the ideology of Americanism to justify and implement policies that serve their agendas, agendas that have nothing to do with Americanism, but with a deeper, darker ideology. So while they create propaganda that they don’t believe is true, they do believe (presumably) that it serves a higher truth, one the masses aren’t ready or able to receive, and so must be herded towards; or sacrificed to. ***
All of this dovetails with the problem of conspiratainment, as discussed recently at the forum, here.
This is how the culture generates narratives that will entertain people who are starting to become aware of being trapped in a culture-generated narrative. They/we need a higher kind of entertainment, a live action video game in which we get to feel like we are waking up, without any of the discomfort of getting out of bed.
Conspiratainment is more pernicious than entertainment because it makes people believe they are getting closer to truth and to changing things when they are just killing time. Also, and worse, unlike TV and movies, it doesn’t help people relax, it gets them fired up to act while instilling them with the belief that they are powerless to change anything. Naturally this makes them angry at the powers-that-be and want to blame (scapegoat) them for their sense of powerlessness (which they already felt before, being what drew them into the conspiracy moshpit in the first place). So then they start to unconsciously adopt the mentality of their abusers, because it makes them feel more empowered to fight them. But since they can’t ever identify them, they are just fighting (fragmenting) themselves.
A few word related thoughts too good to leave lying around on Faceborg:
The mundane is as underrated and undervalued as psychic-occult experiences are overrated. It’s only the mind that makes a distinction anyway. As difficult as it is to escape the matrix of our mundane identities, expanding them into the second matrix of our supposedly cosmic identities doesn’t seem to get us closer to freedom but further from it. There is no end to the tricks that a fragmented psyche can play on itself. Primary among them is the trick of believing that the mystery is “out there,” in the infinitude of mental projections, rather than in here, in the cells and organs of our bodies. Each of which may very well be a mysterious entity unto itself just trying to make contact with “us” (our inflated cosmic ego selves).
Those of us with natural affinity for the invisible get lured into reading about “the occult” as a means to get a handle on our experience; but isn’t a more likely result that we let those symbols and the thought forms hooked into them get handles on us, and on our perceptions?
I think occultism and espionage developed in tandem and that secret societies are akin to intelligence agencies, all with one main aim. Social engineering, perception management, harvesting of awareness. Gods are thought-forms or egregores that are created by directing and inspiring belief and worship, and that serve the original symbol-shapers.
I suspect all physical (“alien”) abductions are human engineered, as opposed to night visitations from “entities” that occur in sleep paralysis state or lucid dreamstate and the like, of which I have had many. I suppose they could be induced but then so could my experience right now so I try to avoid too much speculation, viz a viz, “what is real,” etc. All that said, I allow for some nonhuman/humanoid physical (or quasi-physical) presence on the planet, since faerylore is as old as culture (though then again, so perhaps are “psy-ops”). I just think the modern UFO cult as propounded by intell. assets or useful idiots like Budd Hopkins, Whitley Strieber, John Mack, David Jacobs, Stephen Greer, Jason Wilcox, Peter Levenda, et al. is a manufactured phenomenon that is both cover for mind control “experimentation” (long past the experimental phase) and one of the intended results of it (i.e., designed to simulate a global phenomenon of “alien abduction,” “cargo cults” and “Old Ones”).
At a certain point, the maps we are given prevent us from leaving the territory they claim to represent; worse, they make us believe that they ARE the territory. Nor do I think the imagination is (necessarily) the way out of the prison of the mind/map (tho I used to), but more often a way to build subtler and deeper matrices still. Maybe for the same reason, that our imagination was co-opted from infancy (via applied trauma and directed dissociation) by these false cultural narratives, archetypes, symbols, and theories?
The problem with occult theories is this: As often as not they don’t translate into practice; and when they do, it’s generally not the kind of practice we would want to follow.
Isn’t this occultism in a nutshell: a fascinating bunch of theories, and a deadly set of practices?