The Liminalist # 125.5: A Prayer to St. Anthony (with Emerald Gould)

Part two of conversation with Jasun’s niece Emerald Gould, on disowned rage and powerlessness, Frank Booth in Blue Velvet, Travis in Taxi Driver, Kevin in We Need to Talk About Kevin, finding targets for rage, connecting to Iris, Viet vet rage, rage against the mother, male quest for identity, symbiotic union with the mother, narcissism and the inability to acknowledge the interiority of the other, a benign psychopath, a synthetic android, organic portals, poison containers and pattern possession, nature abhors a vacuum, the robotic drive to create a perfect life, The Stepfather, a carrier for social values, a successful psychopath, an inverted morality, niece and uncle dynamic, Emerald’s introduction to darkness, a felt sense of the world, hating the world, Jasun’s influence, an association with magic, depth & darkness, a monster under the bed, when magic fails, magical thinking, the pathless path, defining magic, an intelligent system, when magic ceases to be magic, a prayer to St. Anthony.

Songs:  “The Kommema and his Religion” & “Of the Lakes” by SunWalker; “This Is Far From A Belle Epoque,” by A Faulty Chromosome; “Arkansas Live,” by Damien Jurado.

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  1. Zappa
    Posted August 31, 2017 at 3:36 am | Permalink

    The narcissist, so named, appears to be misunderstood. He sounds just desperate that he has to go through such expected or half-expected rituals and nobody helps him by explaining he does not have to be so accustomed to such an unnecessary role/persona. Just watching him suffer. He does not sound as though he is pathological, it is the people he is drawn to that seem to have the bigger problem/s.
    Robots have social values, programmed virtuously.
    The acting out of patient and therapist simultaneously is asking a lot in conversation. Emerald maintains strong individuality and confidence despite the shaping of concepts, precepts and confessional and imaginative insights into constructing a psychological geodesic dome of interfamilial static.
    Any attempt at influencing others is mostly always going to end up missing the proposed target. Magic and the occult always backfires given time enough to fall from the tree of knowledge to terra firma. A prison of one’s own choosing that should remain just that, not promulgated. Possession is the danger. There is a big difference between turning off a light 25 times and going to confession. If one is unsure of such difference one should find out what it is. Emerald has trust, Jasun has doubt, or is it the other way around? Either way ‘chaos’ should be avoided. St. Anthony might advise that that is too easily found.

    • Jasun
      Posted August 31, 2017 at 10:26 am | Permalink

      Believing one will go to hell if one fails to go to confession is similar to the OCD compulsion, was my point. I could argue that Catholic confession is no more intrinsically cathartic or cleansing than flipping a light switch, if done with disregard as to whom one is confessing to, or from what part of oneself. It is a potentially empty ritual just as the light switch is a potentially meaningful one. Of course, I recognize the psycho-therapeutic value of airing one’s darkness in such a way that it can be integrated, via self-acceptance, but nonetheless, the notion that a priest who may be a pedophile can absolve someone of sin is, IMO, as nonsensical as the belief that flipping a light switch will protect someone from misfortune.

      • Zappa
        Posted August 31, 2017 at 11:00 am | Permalink

        ‘Believing one will go to hell if one fails to go to confession is similar to the OCD compulsion, was my point’. Thanks for this, and I understand your reply but for clarification’s sake believing one will go to hell if one fails to go to confession is not necessarily the case;

        The Catechism says (Para 1472): “Grave (mortal) sin deprives us of communion with God, and therefore makes us incapable of eternal life…”

        Para 1859 confirms the basic tenets: “Mortal sin requires full knowledge and complete consent.”

        Para 1860 says that: “Unintentional ignorance…” as well as “the promptings of feelings and passions can diminish the voluntary and free character of the offence.”

        Finally, para 1861 says: “If it (mortal sin) is not redeemed by repentance and God’s forgiveness, it causes exclusion from Christ’s kingdom and the eternal death of hell, for our freedom has the power to make choices for ever, with no turning back.” It then says (and this is the important bit): “However, although we can judge that an act is in itself a grave offence, we must entrust judgement of persons to the justice and mercy of God.”

        More than complicated, I know.

  2. Nick Lindwurm
    Posted September 9, 2017 at 7:05 pm | Permalink

    Nice succinct video on the childhood origins of OCD –

    Another gem of a interview – thanks

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