The Liminalist # 137.5: Unlived lives (with Jessie Browne)

Part two of conversation with Jessie Browne, on an over-protective mother, an absent father, righteous anger, reenactment compulsion, an energy exchange, seasonal depression, a Martian rescue, Persephone’s need to be rescued, becoming whole, owning sexuality, separating from the mother, the competing pulls of parents, becoming autonomous, a psychic umbilical cord, a mission to please parents, unlived lives, tithing to parents, the child as mediator, being split in two, a world of injustice, sibling rivalry, a temper tantrum, family stories, mother-son enmeshment, emotional incest, working in corn starch, more than corn in Indiana, GMO, responsible use, GMO pigs, clearing out the body, how drugs put the body to sleep, living in the US, part two, polarization & the pendulum, controlling the narrative, romantics anonymous.

Jessie’s Site.

Songs: “Wartime Lovers,” “Walking with a Woman,” by Rose Windows.

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  1. Isaac
    Posted December 30, 2017 at 3:27 pm | Permalink

    I’m glad Jesse was so open with her life, it made for an interesting discussion.

    I checked out her website, it’s rather interesting – on one hand I very much identify with her journey into her own body and the effects that has on one’s viewpoint and just generally how one feels, but I find the stuff related to social justice quite baffling. I found the juxtaposition (to my mind) intriguing.

    Another good guest.

  2. Isaac
    Posted December 30, 2017 at 3:52 pm | Permalink


    I wonder why you think America’s going particularly crazy in relation to the political sphere and polarization. From my point of view, Canada seems to be being sucked down a militantly Marxist drain, where diversity, equality and “inclusiveness” are all important, and freedom of thought and speech are increasingly becoming literally illegal or punishable.

    Perhaps that shows the internet and media make the problems elsewhere seem worse, as we know to a certain degree how this stuff doesn’t always actually manifest in reality in the places where we’re from. Or maybe I’m stuck in a bubble of lower middle class people who don’t really care about politics because they’re so massively out of our control. While I do find American politics highly polarized, I don’t know any actually militant SJWs or Nazis, and don’t find the polarization affects my life in any significant way. I think, in a way, the reason people are posing at such extreme ends of the political spectrum online and in thought is because in reality we have no effect on the political system. So we can pretend Communist revolutionaries or Crusading Knights defending decency online, while in reality we just work our crappy job and watch netflix – the political opinion becomes extreme like Star Wars fanboyism because it has no practical outlet, and causes no disastrous or beneficial effects. It’s just another aspect of our expressing ourselves through media fandom. Politics now seem more like media entertainment than a practical directing of society, and so our relation to politics becomes like our relation to music/TV/film/sports.

    • Jasun
      Posted December 30, 2017 at 5:03 pm | Permalink

      Makes sense up to a point, but population is much denser in the US.

  3. DB
    Posted March 12, 2018 at 4:26 pm | Permalink

    I can relate to Jessie’s struggles in this podcast. Brilliant podcasts, Jasun. The struggles continue.

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