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Jasun reads from Sara Scott’s The Politics & Experience of Ritual Abuse: Beyond Disbelief, and discusses who defines the narrative, superordinate and subordinate testimonies, political power and narrative creation, the incoherency of ritual abuse narratives in the context of the dominant narrative, how we put our unthinking trust in figures of high status, the question of verisimilitude, gauging trustability, sabotaging the capacity to determine what’s real, binary thinking, “Satanic Panic” vs. “Satanic Ritual Abuse,” unquestioned assumptions, Christianity as a no-longer dominant narrative, how the ruling class adapts the narrative to maintain power and control, the New World Order and Scientific Rationalism Advocacy, gay marriage and the neoliberals’ religious zeal, the discourse of disbelief, on Peter Levenda and the fear of a witch hunt, Satanism & neoliberalism, serving the matrix unconsciously, the primary ideology, unconscious complicity, distinguishing between types of ritual abuse, pedophilia and occultism, Levenda again, Crowley as pedophile vs. Crowley as occult ritual abuser, Anton LaVey, Adam Parfrey & secular Satanism, giving one’s body up to Satan, Jasun’s pact with Lucifer, the satanic drive to rebel, violence and binding rituals, the structure of torture, the body and the sacred, satanic ritual abuse as a community binding ritual, making the bodies in a group congruent through carnality, the prevalence of torture in modern narratives, abuse as a means of supplanting identity, creating maximum intensity to transcend identity, transcending flesh & blood, the equivalency of occultism with ritual abuse, God intoxication & satanic possession.
Songs: “The Kommema and his Religion” and “Of the Lakes,” by SunWalker; “The Darkest Regions,” by Fuck Buddies; “Sun,” by The Dalai Lama Rama Fa Fa Fa; “Vincent un Attore,” by Kid Francescoli.
I always like to know who the author is associated with beforehand. I found her ties to all the major media outlets in the UK very interesting. Her book was published by Open University Press with close ties to the BBC.
Barnardo’s children’s charity was started by the son of a Jewish Fur Merchant.
Fits the profile of Problem-Reaction-Solution.
“Dr Sara Scott is co-director of DMSS Research & Consultancy, an independent organisation undertaking research, evaluation, training and consultancy in health and social care. Clients include goverment departments, national voluntary organisations, and regional and local government. She is co-author of the Mayor of London’s third State of London’s Children report (GLA 2007).
Sara has been involved in research in the fields of sexual violence and mental health for over 15 years. She is an experienced programme evaluator committed to the development of outcome focused policy and practice.
She began her working life as a play worker and community artist and then enjoyed a first career in educational and social action broadcasting: working with the BBC, ITV companies and Channel 4 to develop programming and support on topics such as AIDS, adult literacy, breast cancer, drugs and debt. Her role involved developing campaign and communications strategies to reach “hard-to-reach” groups via the mass media.
From 1999 to 2001 she was director of The Gender Training Initiative at the University of Liverpool – a Department of Health funded project developing training for staff in prisons and the secure psychiatric sector.
From 2001-2007 she held the post of principal research officer at Barnardo’s where she lead a programme of research on sexual exploitation.”
Her book The Politics & Experience of Ritual Abuse: Beyond Disbelief is published by Open University Press (2001).”
Funny, as I was just about post a gripe here about the deafening silence…. Not the sort of comment I was hoping for but it is interesting. I didn’t find anything at all “off” about the book itself however, so none of this rings major alarm bells as I don’t think that everyone who achieves any sort of social respectability is “dirty.” The fact SS hasn’t replied to my emails does make me wonder, however!
Did you listen to the podcast yet & if so was there anything that made you suspect an agenda?
Jasun,
do people adopt the “status = authority = trust” narrative because of our experience with our parents as children?
And,
if you have abusive parents, does it help a person fail that initiation?
I am wondering if there is anything we can’t partially explain by sticking “because of our experience with our parents as children” on the end?
Why?
are you looking for a way around “original sin?”
How much evidence do you need?
my response was formulated to indicate the vagueness of your question. Evidence for what?
You expressed in the podcast what appeared to me to be some frustration with the fact people in authority are extended a level of trust based on their status as members of the leadership. When these people are abusive, they use this same trust to shield themselves from the production of justice.
Im asking if the reason so many people fall for this deception and skullduggery is because of our training as children to obey our parents no matter what?
If this be the mechanism, then maybe the concept of “original sin” isn’t just a fairy tale?
Its only very recently that laws holding children responsible for their parents actions have been removed.
Evidence for what?
Evidence for the possibility ALL person are born “damaged” because the original people chose to damage themselves when they DECIDED not to *trust* their “father.”
Its been all downhill ever since.
Matter of fact, nowadays, its almost completely upside down:
“you haft have a little dirt on ya in order for people to trust you”
*nothing says power like showing up at your victims funeral with their blood on your shirt*
There seem to be two opposing points here, one that being illegitimately coerced or pressured to trust parental figures imprints us in a way that makes us both easy to victimize and likely to victimize others, and that this represents an “original sin”; and two, that when a child chooses for some reason to distrust its father when the father is actually trustworthy this is evidence of some original sin mechanism in the child and leads to adults who actually are untrustworthy as parents?
I think the notion of original sin relates to a moment in which we, as children, and human beings as a species much further back, lost our ability to trust in a guiding Father-principal within us, rebelled against it, and so prevented the natural development from selfless immersion in matter/mother/existence to autonomous self-oriented movement within in. We lost the ability to father ourselves and so to be trustworthy parents.
Interesting thoughts there. I believe we are all born as trusting little people who learn by trial and error who and what to trust and conversely who and what not to trust. One, just one of the dangers we encounter as we progress through life are the tricksters, those persons who derive pleasure from the anxiety and fear they cause in their prey. The degree to which this occurs may be placed on a continuum. On the one end, sick joviality and the other, satanism. I’ll leave it there for now.
Thanks Jasun