The Liminalist # 267: The Highs & Lows of a Natural Musician (with Alex Rushfirth)

Conversation with Alex Rushfirth on family relations, autism, expression, and art, ancestral patterns, and musical distress signals.

Part One: The Edges of Experience (0 – 39 mins)

First day of lockdown # 2 in the UK, ancestral trauma & living with one’s parents in a lockdown, a test of acceptance, re-enacting childhood, Hermitix podcast, a philosophy degree, the edges of experience, a life punctuated by illness, when reality kicks you down, university life, mind-caused illness, the quest for cleanness, meeting Dave Oshana, to allow things to be what they are, a job interview in pyjamas, life as an anomaly, seeking ways to express, communicating discomfort, autism as a negative definition, Auticulture early days, artists & autists, dyslexia, shedding layers, situating oneself among people.

Part Two: Ancestral Pressures (39 mins – 1 hr 20 mins)

An oxymoronic label, organisms that don’t adopt language, Magical Child, language as body armor, thinking & doing, the tragic consequence of internalizing language, a linguician, why low-functioning autists don’t learn language, symbolic emotional processing, a musical prodigy, pictures of the body, a perfect version of the self, the dishonesty of academia, language as a closed door, ossification and de-ossification through language, parental pressure to succeed, subtle signals of coercion, ancestral pressure, a fraught relation with Dave, and older brother groove, the opportunity of being triggered, conveying the vibe, pushing out the life force.

Part Three: Materializing Feelings (1 hr 20 mins – 1 hr 55 mins)

The need to be oneself, parental programming, a lifetime of frustration, a man’s foes are those of his own household, opposing body languages, inside the Big Brother house, manic performances, a mysterious illness, moving from sport to music, the highs & lows of a natural musician, body distortion and voice constriction, unusually driven, materializing feelings, a problem of communication, esoteric lyrics, constant tension, connecting to heaven & earth, forward motion without height or depth, a point of tension.

Part Four: A Different Orientation (1 hr 55 mins – end)

A distress signal from a taught instrument, when the drive entered, closing down & schooling, a cry for help, an attempt at auto-exorcism, power & sensitivity, the trap of siddhis, trauma and charisma, abducted by aliens, giving up gifts to become whole, feeling a room, back to communal roots of music, attempts at self-promotion, a control dynamic, a different orientation, celebrity neurosis, opening to the unconscious vs. the drive to success, art as communication, creation as discovery, song-writing in dreams, Liminalist music selections.

Alex’s Music

Podcast Art: Martin Jolly

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Songs: “The Power of AW” & “Chasing Time” by Joy Zipper; “Maya” and “Caveman” by Alex Rushfirth.

15 thoughts on “The Liminalist # 267: The Highs & Lows of a Natural Musician (with Alex Rushfirth)”

  1. Observation, if Alex felt comfortable returning home throughout lockdown, all must be well. I have the reverse situation since March. Synchronicity certainly teaching me a lesson. My Son who moved back home at 36 with a girlfriend teacher I might add. All ended for the best even much more complicated. Parental power indeed. Musicians as are writers, creative folk.

    Listening to your podcasts for years now Jasun. Thank you for being a beacon of wisdom and light in these strange times. Haha, Dave.

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  2. I like the idea of this spiralling and i,m not a producer but do guitar in a way where the journey to the note is part of the note and actually affects the tone , like light sabering past the cleaners at the airport floor before boarding . it would work for another vocalist or a collaboration , maybe a female voice to launch the track into another space . It is also a relief for them because they do not have the pressure of beginning, middle and end and also its good for many reasons to collaborate nowadays.
    When I was 12 this giant elm tree was cut down and there was this pond. I had this “slinky” kind of weighted harpsichord i threw into and it took a long time to sink and gargling this compressed sound yet still staying afloat like an inflatable had found its way to the titanic..the talk reminds me of this image . So like the track say Cosby Stills n Nash Carry On https://youtu.be/lh67x9iDCjg. theres a keyboard , conga interval ..reason for this piece s partly we did a jam at the creak , at the call in the transmission and when someone says D I always am implanted with the intro for this song. D is a very optimistic forwarding key , opens the solar plexus and perhaps more for the guitar than other instruments. (not a great fan of the mandolin, as though every string is in D). So i like the idea of the drums following everything which you do and this imploding into something .

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  3. Can you go back to joint-stereo for the mp3s, recently they have been in full stereo which is strange to listen to on headphones. Also please interview more abductees.

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    • LOL; oddly married requests; On the first I thought it was only the Jeff G one that was full stereo… I will def. go back to joint and re-upload this one soon; the second request is about to be answered also, 5 days from now

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      • Thanks Jasun, enjoy the show.

        For the longest time we’ve heard from the same old abductees, who are usually promoting something, or on the book/conference circuit. It’s rare to here from unknown abductees. There is a new podcast called Aliens & Artists that has started doing exactly this.

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        • file fixed.

          like an autist, a true abductee would be cautious to identify as such, IMO

          any god that comes from the outside is a devil

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