Return conversation with Kurt Hardesty on 16 Maps of Hell, Orthodox Christianity,
Part One: Eating Infinity (0 – 31 mins)
Manual labor, meeting farmers in Galicia, the promise of Hell, geeking out on 16 Maps, an author fade, a real tabloid, the softest 4th wall break, meditation depths, the choice between embodying & articulating, the mechanics of the struggle, wrestling with an angel, completed by the reader, the impression of a subject, the angelic hierarchies, fractal imagery on drugs, the orthodoxy ladder, Charles Upton, submitting to orthodoxy, training wheels in hell, Christ’s face, the church as sense organ, a transcendental anchor, covid in the church, a clarifying struggle. (volume down)
Part Two: Between the Animal & the Angel (31 mins – 1 hr 3 mins)
Approaching the transcendental, the revolving door of the identity, going to the immanent, touching heaven, attachment to passions, latah, the equivalence of heaven & hell, dying in resistance to God, the realm of the dead & the animal kingdom, the passion of Christ, the passion of athletics, a non-transcendent human layer, turning nature into hell, culture as mold, pockets of culture unchanged, when nature becomes culture, the US as cultural wipe, a country with body dysphoria, a cultural export of dissociation, transcendence without immanence, Strieber as spiritual automaton, the US experiment, Oshana on extraterrestrialism, between the animal & the angel.
Part Three: Shit Work in Hell (1 hr 3 mins – 1 hr 36 mins)
Different strands of humans, the fall of Adam, Garbanzo the soul-cat, souls through the meat grinder, a perceived lack of empathy, a neighbor from hell, interacting with latahs, hatred of inauthenticity, shit on the burger, working in the sewers, under a woke bureaucracy, trapped in the church, the price of belonging to a group, Kurt’s shit work in Hell, where heaven touched time, the pirates of penance, bestowing blessings, pure ball being, hitching a wagon to an organization, the rebel-saints, ready to die for the church.
Part Four: Artificial Copies of Christ (1 hr 36 mins – end)
Leaving the church, method spirituality, the liminal state, not limited but localized, a razor blade in the apple, the church as boat, keeping the truth out, finding oneself by delivering to others, an encounter with Antichrist, the sacraments, Christians who don’t grok Christ, artificial copies of Christ, the church inside a church, the story of Hell, a diamond in the rough, the earth emerges, the coordinates of epiphany, participation in a process, parasocial relations, a womb of concepts, movie maya, threads into multiple psyches, the mansions of Hell, the Christian narrative, Rosemary’s baby, Rene Girard, making Christianity coherent, the gospels as a key, the solution to the problem of religion, Sartre’s hell.