The Liminalist # 33: Disembodied Voices (with Ezra)

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Conversation with Ezra SB, on art as technology, data-encrypted music, constraint & choice in composing, Leonard Cohen & Donald Hebb experiments, Ann Diamond’s evidence of Cohen’s changing states, exploring archetypal realms, MKULTRA and the creation of multiple personalities, art as Promethean fire, Ezra’s background, the illusion of  a central self, a useful implant, the task of integration, using art to garner unearned feelings, Ewen Cameron & psychic driving, psychic infiltration, a life seeking validation, the whip of the critical voice, the superhero as dysfunction, hijacking the life force, the power of the fragment, creating charisma, what is disembodiment, the reality of the psyche, Cohen’s central deception, worship of the female body, missing the boat, how false ceremony masters reinforce the followers’ neuroses, surrendering to self-rejection, the two faces of Leonard Cohen, marketing the fragment/selling the whole, Cohen’s cosmology of sexuality, his treatment of women, worshiping women to destroy them, sublimated hatred, transferring brain states, music as masking, weaponized information, administering shocks, shadow content, astromusic, Masonic music codes, the Illuminati and the music industry, the vault of the adepts, 2nd matrix building, creating community, the shadow of ambition, the energy of being and the energy of doing, the soul and the measure of the value of the transmission.

Songs: “El Mariachi” & “Monkey Said,” by The Freak Fandango Orchestra; “Rose,” by ??; “Attendance,” by Kill Me Tomorrow.

13 thoughts on “The Liminalist # 33: Disembodied Voices (with Ezra)”

  1. As Ezra said that Ann Diamond’s voice was beautiful, so I find his, as well as his face. Yes, beautiful, original young man. I hope he hasn’t been MK’ed.

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  2. A first? I up to the “big” city, had a “few” drinks at one bar, the bartender wouldn’t serve me, met up with two strangers staying in a hotel, said I cant’ drink at this bar, so we went to the bar next door; found myself some time later (hours?) that I was no longer welcome, left bar…blank…found myself walking among hills of dry brown grass along a dark river, crossed the river valley but fell down a slope and lied on my back looking at the stars, laughing…but before felt that I woke up in my body that had been walking while I was not there!!!! So, what use consciousness if my body can keep on truckin’ without me? But, this is the whole point. The consoling song that seems so real to my experience is the Leonard Cohen song “By the rivers dark, I travelled on…” Yes, that was precisely
    essentially does not need consciousness to function, to evade captors which is the essence of the Cohen song.

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    • It’s called ‘blackout drinking’. If it continues, it is advisable to consider stopping drinking completely, as things will get far worse than being refused drinks and being asked to leave bars.
      The question is; what use consciousness if you obliterate it with vast amounts of the CNS alcohol. I speak as an alcoholic in recovery 🙂

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  3. Yes, LC does indeed provide consolation to this drunk! Like a drunk in a midnight choir…

    The relevance I would posit may not be to this specific podcast but to the question of consciousness and the body’s (or at least my body’s–occasional?–ability to carry on without consciousness–as in an alcoholic blackout.) After the experience of wandering along rivers dark, I researched the phenomenon of blackouts and, to my surprise, found only a few research articles from the sixties. Most of the knowledge about alcoholic blackouts is anecdotal. There are estimates that on weekends, at least in the U.S, some large percentage of people driving home from bars are in a state of automatism caused by alcoholic blackouts. Hence the many fatalities due to auto crashes in a state of automatism–there the body failing consciousness. Fortunately, I had been parted from my truck–I don’t know how–it went missing for 2 weeks before I recovered it– and so came to consciousness with my car keys inexplicably in my pocket and equally inexplicably walking in the dead of night by a river.

    But, in any case, I thank you both for the warning and chastisement. I recognize that I need help but I cannot stomach Alcoholics Anonymous and there are no midnight choirs currently seeking members in my area.

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  4. Yes, The Net is very good and it’s unbelievable that the interviewer got access to his subjects several of whom abruptly ended their interview if they found that the questions in any way seemed to endorse Kaczynski. It’s an uncomfortably edgy–in a good way–and probing documentary.

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  5. Hmm. Looking for fulfillment in another – could we say that instead of “worshipping women”? Does it not go both ways? Women seeking the same in men? Otherwise, I’d disagree. I think the sense of man “wronged” by some no good woman is a very mainstream characteristic of our culture. However we package it. Women are devalued, not revered. Humans are devalued.

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      • Okay, I agree. Isn’t that what Katherine Hepburn says in The Philadelphia Story? I don’t want to be worshipped, I want to be loved…? But I think we worship the male as the ideal, not the female.

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        • Who is the “we” though? I suppose you could say I worshiped the male in the form of Clint Eastwood, et al., but in my social life my supplication was strictly for women. I see easily as much evidence, at least in a post-feminism world, for misandry and misogyny. The spellcheck only recognizes the one, however. 😉 It’s not an either/or question, surely?

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