The Liminalist # 114: Carriers of Rage (with Anonymous Italian)

Return conversation with the Anonymous Italian, on credibility, due diligence as a researcher, the nature of research, Alex Jones’ pro-wrestling style, transference in reading, David Icke and emotionality, joining teams, being a fan, a personal connection with researchers, navigating the sea of information, what it means to be human, sexual abuse and stolen reactions, reclaiming the loss, innocence & integrity, poison containers, putting the pieces together, feeling & memory, carriers of rage, fighting apathy, projecting latent emotions, daily misery, a self-reflecting, self-reinforcing identity, followed the fucked-upness, scary validation, music, trauma, & sublimation, R & B, fighting back with a guitar, a journeyman musician, trauma-engineered rock stars, Keith Richard’s health, Dave McGowan, big picture and little picture, ghouls in the music biz, a dark vortex, the mob & music, the hipster art scene, hanging in biker bars.

Songs:  “The Kommema and his Religion” by SunWalker; “Cotton, “Devil is Watching You, & “All I Got is Gone,” by Lightning Hopkins.”

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  1. Chris
    Posted June 5, 2017 at 11:03 am | Permalink

    Really glad to hear you two talking again. Great conversation.

  2. Ross
    Posted June 6, 2017 at 3:19 am | Permalink

    Very good chat thanks.

  3. MB
    Posted June 21, 2017 at 2:30 pm | Permalink

    “well, we’re talking about something that is true for everybody though”. Much of what was said in just the first hour was so deeply relatable makes me wonder if trauma patterns could possibly be so consistent? This isn’t a question of out of doubt- just pointing out how after the third or 4th time I thought “yes or me too” that I started to question & doubt myself instead. This isn’t the first thing to elicit this but I think it’s the first time I have caught it. Looking back, I had the same reaction to much of what was written in Prisoner of Infinity – especially the Kalsched quotes- there was relief at first to have a vocabulary & a picture to put to my experience followed by intense rejection. Anyhow, many thanks to you both.

    • Jasun
      Posted June 25, 2017 at 2:14 pm | Permalink

      so which do you believe? the relief and affinity or the rejection?

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