The Liminalist # 66.5: The Opposite of Transcendence (with Isaac Marcuson)


Part two of conversation with Isaac Marcuson, on society’s conspiracy to keep us fragmented, Stoicism and the Shadow, the intent to be virtuous, seeking homeostasis, the drive to wholeness, the split between being and doing, sweetness of the mundane, the obligation of the world, spiritual path into adversity, powering a corrupt system, the quest for knowledge & the will to power, the opposite of transcendence, traumatic impact in the Garden of Eden, autonomy & embodiment, the body’s wisdom, the original cause, embracing uncertainty, rejecting schools of thought, the evolution of philosophy into psychology, Isaac’s mystical experiences, salvia divinorum time loop, an Ayahauscan abyss, experiencing nothingness, the function of psychedelics, finding better metaphors, Jasun’s premature enlightenments, infant annihilation anxiety, failed embodiment, psychedelics as self-traumatization, the wisdom of the unconscious, preventing awakening by seeking awakening, being liminal, the trick of money, questioning the narratives, waiting for the wave, enjoyment & efficiency, Jasun in the hands of Homeland Security, enjoying jail time, surrendering to life itself.

Songs:  “Love Cats” by Metropolly; “This Cat’s Got Time,” by Nate Maingard; “Story of a Freak,” by Blupa Music; “Good Night Heart” by My Bubba & Mi; “Monkey Said” by The Freak Fandango Orchestra.

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  1. Marc Phaneuf
    Posted May 25, 2016 at 9:56 am | Permalink

    Only just started to listen to Isaac’s podcast. But it sounds like he has the same job as I had for almost 24 years. Run for it Isaac I’m only 57 and feel like I’m 70! This should be a therapeutic listen for me.

  2. jack hoff
    Posted May 25, 2016 at 9:31 pm | Permalink

    let your nuts hang out

  3. Alex
    Posted June 12, 2016 at 4:45 pm | Permalink

    26mins in, you said you’re “unfortunately, lamentably dependent” on the psychological freudian/jungian school of thought. It just begs the question how would things be different for you if you weren’t. I suppose we just can’t help but grasp onto some kind of model , maybe just to give us a feeling of progression, a horizontal path forward as opposed to the more vertical ‘now-ness’ of uncertainty/liminalness. For me it’s nonduality schools of thought but I am aware that my experience is kind of squeezed uncomfortably in to that model at the expense of a kind of innocent receptivity.

    • Jasun
      Posted June 12, 2016 at 5:00 pm | Permalink

      i think a simple test is, can we convey our meanings without relying on the terms belonging to said model? these models are like bike wheels; once you are off & running (referring to direct experience), they come off. Poor models don’t ever come off because they don’t ever allow us to experience riding a bike, just grunting around in circles.

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