Conversation with Jenny Upton on Catholicism, Hell vs purgatory, Dante’s journey, & the opportunities of the Apocalypse
Part One: Religious Calling (0 – 26 mins)
Entering Catholicism, Thomas Merton, going to the East, affinity in eternity, eternity & time, different religious influences.
Part Two: The Mountain of Purgatory (26 mins – 1 hr 1 min)
Therapeutic spirituality, science & scientism, eternal & temporal, Dante in Venice, mapping Hell, spiritual, material, & psychic worlds, the mountain of purgatory, spiritual pride.
Part Three: A Blessed Time (1 hr 1 min – end)
Lucifer’s sin, the Fall, taking on animal nature, the quality of space, creating a religious environment, the difference between purgatory & Hell, a willingness to suffer, the volatile ego, the bright side of Hell, Kali Yuga, the latter days, a blessed time, connectivity of souls, an open hierarchy.
Songs: “Primitive” by Joy Zipper; “Like a Stranger” by Bodies of Water; “Wild & Blue” & “Cast No Shadows” by The Mekons.