Some clips from the show.
Jasun Horsley: [00:00:30] You bring a case like Crowley and you put him under the microscope, and you see what I saw with The Vice of Kings. How far was he willing to take that? He was willing to take that all the way, he was looking for what he perceived as the most evil act possible, the unforgivable sin in the Bible, the sin against the Holy spirit that’s unforgivable and then committing it, as a way to, the path of transgression, completely free himself from social conditioning, from false morality. And we’re living in a culture and climate that advocates this, it’s all over.
I mean, if somebody is consciously deceiving, they would have to also be deluded as well. They would have to have some rationale for doing it that would be fundamentally delusional. I mean, I do believe there’s an innate moral sense that we have biologically even, we have a sense of what’s right and wrong in any given moment.
Alex Tsakiris: [00:01:30] You know, how effective you can be with 90% to 95% truth… and win your trust, so that I can then use that to kind of switch things in a different way.
Jasun Horsley: [00:01:44] It’s spin isn’t it? My sense with Levenda, and he did help me see something ironically, is that I started to get a sense that it was to do with ideological affiliation, if you like. That Levenda, my impression anyway, he’s ideologically affiliated with occult values and systems and methodologies.
And, my first talk with the Ungoogleable Michaelangelo (second talk will be on an upcoming Liminalist).
Jasun Horsley is a sharp but subtle thinker who describes himself as “an existential detective in chronic confession mode”. A prolific writer, he has published countless books, blog posts, & articles. He also hosts The Liminalist podcast, where we did a follow-up conversation. Initially reluctant, a series of uncanny coincidences lured me deeper into his realm, where I discovered a treasure trove of parallel processes, insights, & reflections. In this episode we cast a sobering glance at the potentially dissociative perils of visionary experiences & the integrative appeal of trauma as the gateway to becoming fully incarnated.
Last up, a brief update on life inside (and outside) the Dave Oshana ET field: Dave has recently upped his game by embarking on healing work within the group, and I feel this is mirrored by my own intensely satisfying involvement in the affinity groups occurring sans Dave, with participants who have mostly met through Dave or, in a few cases, through the Liminalist/Auticulture hub. This includes the Tuesday men’s group, which is proceeding in leaps and bounds in the work-play of restoring the masculine essence to its natural state of absolute goodness and virtue.
On the last online Oshana event, Sunday’s “How to Heal,” Dave gave a comprehensive talk on what energetic healing is and how it happens, followed by a truly stunning demonstration in which he spent several minutes with roughly 20 participants, tuning into us one by one, as a preliminary for healing that was also its initiation (such is the power of intensely focused ~ or enlightened ~ loving attention). My experience in brief:
an intensely useful and finally profoundly wonderful experience; once in a while Dave demonstrates what enlightenment is and what it is capable of… my experience for most of the longer, interactive portion of the meet was a weird combo of boredom with edge-of-my-hammock engagement; an opportunity to suspend both belief and disbelief and simply observe; I observed very little [with my mind, that is] until my turn came around and I entered into the session with next-to-no expectations. I was surprised by how open I was and how rapidly I felt the effects. It was very much like, by commenting on what he observed in me, it amplified my experience of it. I suppose someone might say this was due to my suggestibility, but he used so few words, so sparingly and pointedly, that I doubt it was that. The experience I had was of affective-ly/sensorially remembering (Dave used the word recapitulating) my essential self, of being filled up with emptiness, a spherical non-object in the physical sense realm, reconnecting to a non-spacial present-time memory of an eternal flame self. . . . Anyway, words are a drag and won’t capture or even evoke it, but it was quite remarkable. Afterwards, I remembered a dream I once sent to Dave, in which he told me I was on the line to enlightenment and to just carry on and my arrival was assured. It felt like a similar sort of restful certainty of being now home, because I was on my way home.