The Liminalist # 100: Where’s the There? (with Joseph L. Flatley)

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Disclaimer:

Joseph Flatley is currently in collaboration with known Satanist, disinformationalist, and advocate of “false memory syndrome,” Lucien Greaves (Douglas Mesner). I have attempted to ascertain whether Flatley is merely gullible or knowingly complicit with such organized deception and malevolence, & have had to conclude the latter. For this reason I have removed this podcast and its follow up.

Talking to Joseph L. Flatley, on Joseph’s interests, meeting Flat Earth-ers, getting accused of being an agent of Mossad, the error of flat-earthism as an appeal to antiquity, targeted individuals and energy-directed weapons, an honest dialogue between opposing viewpoints, falling between two stools, alien abductions & the eyes of beholders, a wide spectrum of belief, questioning the literal reality of the paranormal, Joseph’s anxiety attacks, opening a can of worms, a shift in perception, different levels, the Jon Ronson shtick, a journalist’s responsibility, an inner muckraker, observing the investigation, a voyage of discovery, the classical mission of the journalist, survival condos, conspiracy creeps & conspiracy culture, the high-concept conspiracy theory, where’s the there?, literal vs. figurative clues, Levenda again, Jim Hogan & Jonestown, The Necronomicon & stoners, Strieber again, narrative-creation, Whitley’s pot-boiler sensibility, taking Strieber seriously, UFO LARP-ers, the overlap between fiction and reality, Susan Clancy on sleep paralysis, memory & imagination, breaking down perceptions into parts, aliens & ritual abuse, an unfamiliar context, the Franklin scandal, a bridge too far, topics out of bounds, the pressure to conform within the journalistic community, fear of misrepresentation, leaving the map of Kansas.

Songs:  “The Kommema and his Religion” by SunWalker; “Don’t Die Before Your Day,” by The Arrogants; “These Flowers of Ours,” by The Asteroid # 4.

11 thoughts on “The Liminalist # 100: Where’s the There? (with Joseph L. Flatley)”

  1. Thanks for flatley putting the flat-earthers to rest with the absolute proof of a spherical globe earth just as the jesuits made clear hundreds of years ago! I can sleep better now. All the best with many more episodes like this one. Cheers!

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  2. From roots to branches, have no fear, she ain’t flat and she ain’t a sphere.
    Yew got this, Rocky, yew got this. If you didn’t know it already, if you don’t start with the yews, you’ll never get in/off the ground. Chill on the trolling of Flatley and get to know that human-yew connection point … otherwise you’ll be stuck pushing the flat-earth agenda or the sphere-earth agenda … in other words, just another binary bot-voice in the (un)wilderness … Which may be (or may not be) the goal of your troll comment, whether consciously posted or not. I don’t know … seems like a shit-post to me, personally. ( … maybe I’m just projecting again, though. ( Winky face.)

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  5. curious timing since I just made it to 200:

    Joseph Flatley is currently in collaboration with known Satanist, disinformationalist, and advocate of “false memory syndrome,” Lucien Greaves (Douglas Mesner). I have attempted to ascertain whether Flatley is merely gullible or knowingly complicit with such organized deception and malevolence, & have had to conclude the latter. For this reason I have removed this podcast and its follow up.

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  6. Jasun,

    I would think that Lucien Greaves would make a great foil for you, given that he sees Satan as a metaphor and you take Satan literally (or perhaps “at his word.”) Instead of casting him into the outer cyber darkness, why not look the Beast in the cyber eye and interview him for a Liminal Podcast?

    When you call him a Satanist, are you not falling for his snarky Satanic Trolling since he is making a mockery of real literal-minded Satanists who do consider Satan to be a real being? He thus seems to be following in the Discordian footsteps of Robert Anton Wilson.

    What strikes me stylistically about your disclaimer above, is that it sounds so mechanical, so robotic. I read it out loud as if I were reading it as an actor for a stage play script and every time, I felt the best presentation would be in a monotonic, robotic voice. I simply could not find any “emotional hook” in it anywhere. I believe the psychological term is “flat affect.”

    (But to end on a humorous note, I will call it your “Flatley affect.” ;-))

    Best regards,

    Tom

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