The Liminalist # 99.5: Simon’s Denial (with Tom Mellett)

Part two of conversation with Tom Mellett, OTO ritual on Discovery Channel, Jim Wasserman, crashing RFK’s funeral, wandering bishops, Levenda-as-Zelig, Intelligence pranking, the Trickster & crazy wisdom, Peter Levenda’s ambiguous intelligence affiliations, Tom’s stint in military intelligence, Sims Bainbridge, The Process Church, & religious engineering, the power of speaking truth, the Levenda agenda, higher directives, agents of trauma, Afro-Caribbean magic, Lovecraft’s racism, Steiner’s racism, the white man’s burden, Schlemmer & channeling The Nine, aboriginal magic & cultural appropriation, the biological component of race, cosmic xenophobia, the personal unconscious & the collective unconscious, Podesta, Pizzagate, & UFOs, Hidden Figures, NASA & the race question, Foster Gamble’s Thrive, figures of the dead, connecting to the dead, space brothers & ancestors, Marshall McLuhan’s Gutenberg Galaxy, retribalization, externalizing the unconscious, Trump & the crisis of cognitive dissonance, traumagenesis & culture, investing in beliefs, Lloyd de Mause, infant-swaddling, recreating conditions of birth, de-compartmentalization, melting boundaries, atomization, the reification of the individual, how the Borg works, a true version of Godot, Steiner again, beautiful lies, the orbit of Uranus & Neptune’s, collective folly, disillusionism, connecting to the other, redeeming H. P. Lovecraft, the theory of letting go, Levenda’s cry for proof, Peter’s denial, Simon meet Peter, getting back at the bullies, a remarkable life, no visible means of support, the OTO unveiled, evoking Tahuti.

Peter Levenda in O.T.O. ritual on Discovery Channel.

Minute marks: 33:08, 35:03, 37:14.

Songs:  “The Kommema and his Religion” & “Of the Lakes,” by SunWalker; “Ringers in the Fold,” by Big Blood; by Brian Jonestown Massacre.

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  1. Krumm Wildenbruch
    Posted February 2, 2017 at 3:38 pm | Permalink

    Sounds like Levenda bxomes extremely anxious when you invite him to debunk his own wooby blanket Occult structures, which as you have also pointed out are most likely a way of keeping the unconscious at bay as opposed to accessing it. All very Second Matrix, as you say .

    I wonder if reasons hellhound guardians of the unconscious have more to fear from the unconscious than the rest of us , kind of like a sadistic Jailer. ?
    Of course Fiona Barrett is adamant the OTO are high profile kiddy fiddlers in Australia , so there would be some fairly foul demons in their kitbag .

    Regarding Tom desceibing the universe being infinitely flat , i think the version of it we are creating is definitely being compressed ( , like corporate structure ), but this is possibly one of Dantes Seven Circles rather than the real thing , i think .

  2. JorisKarl
    Posted February 4, 2017 at 2:53 am | Permalink

    Cultural assimilation works both ways and can be a complicated process. For example, voodoo (or voudoun) assimilated a great amount of French Catholicism in its imagery, rituals, and art work, and Exu, an Afro-Brazilian form of “black” magic assimilated assorted European grimoires, and even the satanism in the novel “Las bas” by the late 19-century French novelist J-K Huysmans. However, it’s true that there remains a ground of aboriginal lore because these magics were created (constructed) by African slaves brought to the Caribbean and Brazil and other places where such slaves were needed.

  3. Jason Wilcox
    Posted February 4, 2017 at 3:54 pm | Permalink

    I am surprised to find someone who has changed his mind about the Kennedy assassination, moving from thinking it a conspiracy to it being the work of a “lone nut”. Most people, once they gain deeper knowledge, go the other way.

    It should also be noted that Arthur Young’s wife was a close friend of Mary Bancroft, Allen Dulles’ long-term associate/mistress. While Bell Helicopter was the most commonly used military helicopter in the Vietnam War – a conflict President Kennedy was resolved to prevent.

    • Posted March 3, 2017 at 8:21 pm | Permalink

      Hello Jason,

      Sorry to be a month late in answering your comment. It was not just getting to know Ruth Hyde Paine that helped me change my tinning about the conspiracy theories but even more the fact that there are so many different competing theories and every one is like a sub-cult religious sect which has its tenets and dogmas and much energy is spent on discrediting rival sects so that each one eventually collapses under its own weight of guilt-by-association (dot-connecting) and circular reasoning.

      I think the Onion article on the assassination sums it up perfectly:

      Yes, I once talked with Ruth Forbes Young about her friendship with Mary Bancroft. And Peter Levenda makes a really big deal out of Allen Dulles cutting off the questioning of Ruth Hyde Paine during her Warren Commission testimony because it might have led to her uncovering his relationship with Mary, but I don’t buy Peter’s guilt by association and innuendoes about it.

      Whenever I introduce someone to Arthur Young and his legacy, I always say this: “Arthur is the inventor of the Bell-47 helicopter, you know, the ones you see on M*A*S*H.” But Arthur left Larry Bell by 1948, even before the Korean War got underway.

      It is true that the Bell helicopters were used in Vietnam, but they were major improvements and adaptations of Arthur’s original model, which hangs in the Museum of Modern Art in NYC and not in the Smithsonian or Aerospace Museum.

      A more “sinister force” connection to make is that Joe Mashman, one of the best test pilots for the Bell-47’s development in the 1940’s became the pilot of Air Force 1 for LBJ, who had JFK killed, according to one of those sub-cults the Onion article describes.

  4. Posted March 3, 2017 at 8:29 pm | Permalink


    As for the video above, where Peter Levenda appears as one of the participants in Jim Wasserman’s OTO ritual, I received this personal reply from Peter where he explains his presence in the ritual filmed for that Discovery Channel documentary in 2012. I highlight his denial of membership in the OTO or any other occult order.

    James Wasserman: I have known him for decades. He is in the OTO (no, not “the Pope”; that dubious distinction goes to a guy named Bill Breeze). I am not a member, never was. As I have stated more than once, I have not joined any occult order, secret society, initiatory body of any kind. Jim and I do not see eye to eye on many things, including politics and religion. But I have known him forever. When he asked me to participate in the “Secret Societies” documentary, I was happy to do so, as a friend. I wrote a foreword for one of his books, and he wrote a foreword for one of mine (in which he accused me of being a “heretic” vis-à-vis his understanding of Aleister Crowley and Thelema by the way).

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