The Liminalist # 132: Escaping into a Borrowed Identity (with Gib Strange)

First of a two-part conversation with Gib Strange, on Unknown Valley artwork, faceless faces, novel rejections, the choice to podcast, back to oral storytelling, the appeal of podcasts, listening to The Liminalist at night, spoken word performance, loneliness & alienation, depersonalization, the cats arrive, fleeing a sense of unreality, deflation & impotence, lost memories of childhood, depersonalization vs. derealization, a Turing test for humans, the core question, I’m not here, as the moments move towards death, coping mechanisms for death, a context for the death of everything, a culture of lying, a ghost train that never ends, escaping into productivity, Jasun’s cult following, dissolving the line between performer and audience, addressing the audience, a prison break or perceptual shift, Secret Life of Movies, an escape into a borrowed identity, writing about Sebastian Horsley, admiration for the father, Lethem’s father, seeking the father’s approval, a filial collaboration, the father’s blessing, the ma on the stair, under the father’s shadow, ancestral influences, existing to fill a void, uncle’s suicide, narcissistic parenting, unlived lives and ancestral possession, the presence of an absence.

Notes from the Uncanny Valley (Gib’s podcast)

Songs:  “The Kommema and his Religion”  by SunWalker; “The Great Indoors,” “Voices in the Attic” and “Most Dangerous Star” by Dead Cinema.

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  1. JorisKarl
    Posted October 29, 2017 at 11:30 am | Permalink

    I love Dead Cinema and your singing, Gib: singer, musician, writer, and podcaster with the deadpan delivery and wit of a Steve Wright. I listened to the Turing episode and was quite delighted with your observations; must listen to the rest of the episodes. What I love about Jasun’s podcasts is the revelations of talented people with whom I feel affinity. However, I exercise caution by not listening to your intro and outro too attentively lest you induce depersonalization via your hypnotic voice which, for some reason, reminds me of Harold Chasen from the movie Harold and Maude. Great conversation!

  2. Posted October 30, 2017 at 12:42 pm | Permalink

    Thanks for the compliments, JorisKarl. I agree about the Liminalist guests—I felt a definite affinity with Kelvin Gregory and Darren Westlund recently. And thanks for listening to Notes from the Uncanny Valley—I’ve just posted a spooky new episode for Halloween!

  3. Ephrem Zemblast, Sr.
    Posted October 30, 2017 at 2:46 pm | Permalink

    Can you change the the jingly jangly intro muse-ic please….nothing personal. It’s like hearing the same Steve Miller song every time I go to 7-11 on the pa. “Life keeps on slipping’ into the future.” Wow, maaahnnn….

    • Jasun
      Posted October 31, 2017 at 5:25 pm | Permalink

      well, I changed the intro music after 70 episodes and we are almost up to 140, if you can hold out another few weeks…

      meanwhile, does anyone have any suggestions for a replacement song (from the Liminalist archives or related)?

      • thom prentice phd
        Posted December 21, 2017 at 6:28 am | Permalink

        Something from Gib …

  4. thom prentice phd
    Posted December 21, 2017 at 5:37 am | Permalink

    Marshall McLuhan said that reading as well as listening to the radio (podcasts) are “hot” media requiring conscious attention and engagement while TV (screen culture) is cool requiring nothing but passive watching. No imagination required.

  5. thom prentice
    Posted December 21, 2017 at 6:34 am | Permalink

    Do not daughters also need “the father’s blessing” … and sons the “mother’s blessing” Are shitty parents a predictable consquence of coercive, repressive, conformist, capitalist, militarist civilization? I mean,, like, how did it all work among the Iroquois, Seminoles, Sioux, Commanches, Hopi, Navajo, Celts … ?

    • jasun
      Posted December 21, 2017 at 11:37 am | Permalink

      I think that daughters especially need the mother’s blessing and sons need the father’s, insofar as that approving gaze that helps establish a healthy sense of selfness relates to the body and hence to our sex (not gender!).

      I am not sure how shitty parenting can be the result of a shitty civilization, since parenting clearly comes first.

      • thom prentice
        Posted December 22, 2017 at 7:48 am | Permalink

        Yes parenting clearly came first with gatherers / fishers / hunters but since the Industrial Technological Fossil Fuels Burning Revolution, the shitty civiliation imposes itself onto humans and families (Marx, Freud, Marcuse, Wolf] rather than vice versa as it apparently had been … and perhaps even before insofar as serfs, peasants, campesinos, bondmen and women, peons, and et cetera were concerned with respect to their masters. The situations of the miners and mine managers and mine owners and the Counts in Luther’s Germany were especially atrocious.

  6. thom prentice
    Posted December 21, 2017 at 6:55 am | Permalink

    Does not civilization raise the unhappy child … using the parents as proxies or vectors to force conformity and regimentation et cetera which creates an unhappy child ?

    And do not parents then always blame themselves for whatever rather than the coercive forces of civilization?

    My gay friends almost universally have said that after coming out, one or both parents worried about “what they did wrong” when what was done that was wrong was the repression of the erotic for the building and sustaining of civiliation of the hoarding elites, by the hoarding elites and for the hoarding elites.

    “The nuclear family today provides the ruling class with an inexpensive means for the feeding and preservation of the current workforce and the raising and disciplining of the next generation of workers.” – Sherry Wolf

    Doggone good podcast!

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