The Liminalist 161.5: A Woman Among Trans (with Posie Parker)

Second of two-part conversation with Posie Parker on open organized child abuse, collective gaslighting, body dysphoria, children’s transition assembly, Educate & Celebrate, the point of doublethink, trans-criminality, desistance, the murder of debate, no platforming, leaving the left, sympathy for the right, left-right cycles & the pendulum effect, the history of an ideology, the Fabian Society, Havelock Ellis & sex research, incremental change, the Weimar Republic syndrome, the death of psychology, changing views on homosexuality, identity politics succession drama, the eradication of boundaries, the gateway to transhumanism, Martine Rothblatt, the privatization of morality, people as islands, the problem of ease, runaway narcissist culture, perfecting an image, Gender Quake, a woman among trans, the ineffable ego, the desire not to be human, the “beman,” Jordan Peterson, short-term happiness, avoiding suffering, totalitarian liberalism, compelled speech, cognitive dissonance, trans snake oil, Theodore Dalrymple on unhappiness vs depression, social infantilization, no transitions to peerage, one rule for the lower class, protecting the money, Alison Moyet, J.K Rowling and the perils of tweeting, intuitive risk aversion.

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The Age of Advanced Incoherence: Identity Politics, Identity Crisis (Intro)

Songs: “I’m Going Insane” & “15 Bistro 2” by Lee Maddeford;  “Morning Birds” by Kristin Hersh.

16 thoughts on “The Liminalist 161.5: A Woman Among Trans (with Posie Parker)”

  1. I wholeheartedly agree with the condemnation of these aberrant behaviors that arise at the pinnacle of decadent and individual/material-centric culture, but I wonder if there is anyone listening to the Liminalist at this point who doesn’t. This felt like old territory at this point and was not as interesting as it could have been; there were points where it seemed like it could take off but Mrs. Parker doesn’t seem to have the background necessary to go there with Jasun. Kudos to her for standing her ground as she does.

  2. It seems as though the heart of the problem is a disease of the power of distinguishing. We are so enraged at the dangers of over-distinguishing–racism, sexism, extreme wealth inequality etc.–that we now declare even the most simple forms of distinguishing, such as noting that a man in a dress is not the same as a natal female, or for that matter almost any form of moral/behavioral disagreement, as extremely dangerous, aggressive and even legally punishable.
    “Live and let live… or else”, I think one of you said.
    I tend to think here of JBP’s (perhaps over-facile but handy) view of the masculine as representing ordering, and the feminine as chaos. Distinguishing in turn seems to me to fall under ordering. Might then the vilification of distinguishing, as well as the spate of males wishing to cast off their maleness to be “women”, signify an illness of masculinity itself? (On the other hand the number of girls seeking to become males has recently overtaken their M-to-F counterparts, so the issue must run deeper.)
    Wondering if you plan doing more of your series on JBP–it’s been an interesting ride.

  3. She’s apparently had both her facebook and twitter accounts suspended. If possible, could you get her to comment on this?

  4. Just listened to both these podcasts and was struck by your outlining how the dialectic of opposing ideologies works to Ms Parker. This coincides with me reading Teilhard de Chardins “future of man” in which he outlinesa similar process and expresses the desire for the spiritualisation of matter through a global unity of consciousness. I mean, this guy is a Jesuit, you know, the mob said to be responsible for the Nazi experiment.
    At the same time i am watching the screen adaptation of JK Rowlings “Fantastic Beasts” . La Rowling an avowed socialist and her work shot through with Fabian Memes Tropes and Motifs. La Rowling is an avid fan of hard core socialist Jessica Mitford, whose dad and sisters were avowed fascists and Nazis. The famous Unity and Diana Mitford. So we see the trails crossing and intertwining again and again.
    So who did Voldemort emanate from ? Ha ha
    Fascinating stuff , thanks .

  5. I also read , and this is more speculative, that Sidney Webbs wife Beatrice maiden name was Potter. Her dad Richard Potter allegedly wrote some childrens occult novels which were later ressurected by the Tavistock institute and given to hard core lefty Rowling to sink her teeth into. Richard Potter and his mates were under the nfluence of Joseph Priestley, another dude enamoured of the idea of the spiritualisation of matter through combining theism materialism determinism . I smell the Jesuits again, though they must be well concealed,

    • No apparent relation to JB Priestley but both from Yorkshire. & no relation between Beatrice and Beatrix Potter, famous children’s writer.

      • Yes, if I recall correctly there is some distant ancestral connection between the two branches of the Priestley clan, but there’s no direct lineage from Joseph to J.B (my great-grandfather).

        Would be fascinated to hear more about these ‘occult children’s novels’ by Richard Potter, and their alleged influence on Rowling. I’ve always found it striking how popular the Harry Potter franchise became with the tumblr-leftoid crowd.

  6. These 2 episodes should have really been condensed to one. I probably could have made a million dollars every time Posie uttered “disgusting”. What the hell does personal responsibility mean? Just a bunch of platitudes and reactionary statements, sounded like a typical youtube rightwing or conspiracy video. If you’re going to go on about these platitudes like personal responsibility, virtues of bill paying, morality, etc. please explain it to me, break it down like I’m dumb so that I can patiently understand this headspace.

  7. I was mostly with her until near the very end. She said something about how only an ugly woman would ever transition to a man. That is the same absolute bullshit that got lobbed at feminists for decades. Nothing but a stereotype that doesn’t take into account the real reasons people think about the things they do.
    I feel a lot of the concerns about this weird shit that has come out of nowhere, but I have to make sure I don’t turn into a fearful reactionary and spout out angry assumptions like that.

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