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Second part of conversation with Alan Green, on intimacy and sex, student sex workers in the UK, modern feminism, working in the adult film industry, the different sides of sex work, Jasun’s sexual individuation journey, shaman porn in Guatemala, sacred whores, the life-cycle of a porn star, Children of God sexual abuse, Sebastian Horsley and the philosophy of promiscuity, traumatized sexuality, marriage, where intimacy begins, the difference between male and female sexuality and intimacy, the layers of trauma in the unconscious, soul-deep intimacy, feminism as masculinized femaleness, playing into the male fantasy, male/female exteriorization vs. interiority, a woman’s inner space, the killing mother that hides behind the “Patriarchy,” how abusive men are possessed by their mothers’ psyche, the cliché of mother issues, let me tell you about my mother, writing around and into the trauma, when rubber meets road, the cocoon, waiting to die, the dark pursuit, making it, writing for Disinfo.com, measuring artistic merit, giving into futility, keeping our heads above the waters of the soul, sync don’t swim, why coping is overrated, why Alan can’t give up his day-job, letting go of the pursuit, a traitor to your ideology, creativity and marketing, a false polarity, the interior and the exterior.
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Songs: Songs: “El Mariachi” by The Freak Fandango Orchestra; “A Screw” (Holy Money)” by The Swans; “Tongue-Tied,” by Paper Navy.
In the outtakes you mention the ‘abyss that we’re not staring into’, like the real avoidance, the issue that we’re skirting around, is that ‘there’s no one there’? We can give it a cursury mention a kind of smug acknowledgement that ‘I know there’s no one in here’ and then move on to the next thing, the next piece of work to keep us busy, the next distraction that will keep us secure amidst the delusion of ‘I am busy’. If we really are just waiting for the facade to crumble is looking again and again at that absence helpful, is it going to quicken the process do you think? Is it the most honest, least evasive, most direct action do you think? Are distractive actions inevitable or can we (or I or you ) stare into this abyss in a consistant or pro-longed, measured way -like a nice project for the festive season?
I just find it annoying in myself that I keep wanting to ignore this absence (even though it is quite funny) and look the other way. Like it’s better to be a living lie than an extinct one.
I suppose the question more is how can it be integrated into daily living. Embraced rather than avoided.
Seems like a good christmas meditation, as we near the darkest hour/longest night.
i am tempted towards a platitude, that when we gaze long enough into the abyss we may recognize that we are it, gazing back.
so what seemed empty is what fills everything… just as, if we can fully embrace the futility and see that something still moves us to act, then we get to embody that which does not recognize futility…
happy whatsit
Remember Me, and I shall remember you. (Q 2:152)
That ‘something that still moves us to act’ moves us by energy moving through, giving us the sense that whatever it is we’re doing is what we feel like doing, so in a way it’s like we have perfect freedom to do whatever we feel like doing, but what we feel like doing is entirely ‘it’s’ doing. It’s like that feeling is where the personal and impersonal meet.
Remembering the feeling is in a sense like remembering God – that which orchestrates all.
Much love to you and your guests.
“When we are not sure, we are alive.”
― Graham Greene
Excellent podcast, Jasun. Hope you keep it going.
Wonder how the lack of sunlight is working on you during the winter here. Have met several who couldn’t take it, and left. A quality SAD light source works well for me, though does nothing for my wife.
A favourite conversation so far.